NARI Member Testifies Before Small Business Committee About Frustrations With EPA

Yesterday, David Merrick, chairman of the NARI Government Affairs Committee and owner of Merrick Design and Build, testified before the House Small Business Committee about many of the concerns remodelers' have about the RRP Rule and the difficulties trying to effectively work with EPA. I think David’s testimony spoke for the opinions of most NARI Members as well as for most remodelers. Let me know what you think.
Click here to view the entire video which was just over one hour long. David’s introduction and his testimony begin at about 19:50.
Here are some highlights I pulled from watching the video myself.
In response to questions posed by a representative overseeing the SBA (Ms. Peters?), David stands up for and points out the realities and challenges for smaller one or two man remodeling businesses starting at about 30:28. David stressed the burden record keeping has on such smaller businesses just trying to earn enough money within the time they have to produce their product, pointing out that even if they are doing the right things regarding the work they perform, they can be punished by EPA for paperwork challenges.

Many might miss this watching the video, but I think it exposes the lack of understanding many of those in our government have about the nature of the remodeling industry and the businesses that participate in the industry. The same representative overseeing the SBA (Ms. Peters?) made the following comment at about 33:10 in what I observed to be an obvious effort to be sarcastic;
“And when I get my bid from a contractor on remodeling should I triple the time and double the money? (She laughs) Just Kidding…”
Perhaps, like many contractors, EPA has a problem under estimating and under bidding?
At 58:56 Mr. Tipton asks: “So, effectively what you are saying is if the EPA is asking for input maybe it would be a good idea if they listened? To that question Merrick replied that the EPA is always gracious about meeting with NARI and taking their input, but he further clarifies his response by commenting “They take our comments and disappear behind doors and we never hear from them again.”
I think it is worth listening to the balance of the video after Merrick’s comment to hear Mr. Tipton’s comments and opinions in support of more sensible oversight of EPA’s tactics, behavior, attitudes and performance.
Give EPA more money?
During the hearing there was much banter regarding whether EPA needs more money to effectively regulate or alternately should get less money because of their poor performance. I think they are missing the point. We don’t have more money to give EPA unless we take it from somewhere else or borrow it from China and put the burden of paying for the borrowed money on our children’s future. Maybe many of the the same children the rule is intended to protect.
Here is one example. During the hearing Merrick points out That currently only 122,476 firms in the remodeling sector are considered EPA Lead-Certified Firms, out of the estimated 652,206 remodeling businesses in the United States. Has EPA done a good job in the past 26 months since the rule took effect if 80% of remodeling contractors are still operating uncertified? Are they really keeping our children safe from lead poisoning with the plan they assembled knowing the reality of available funding?
I think it goes back to original planning. Try this analogy.

The simple way to put it is it’s great to figure out and plan for a nice seafood lobster dinner, but if you get to the store and you don’t have enough money then all that planning on a great seafood dinner is kind of wasted. My suggestion is that the way EPA went about creating this rule is rather silly especially because they just don’t have the funding or the budget to administer and enforce the rule the way the rule was written.
Perhaps if EPA really understood our industry and how contractors operate, they would have considered a Design/Build approach!
Thanks David.
Click here for a NARI Press Release about the hearing

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My advice to every remodeler is to find a company with an XRF that can do a test and produce a report that can be used as a tool to deal with lead above the regulatory limit. Get fluent in using LSWP. Check each other to make sure no one is poisoning their clients or their pets and lets be professional about it.
As EPA amends the RRP rule, renovators working in states that have taken over the rule from EPA need to know if and how these states incorporate the changes into their own rule. Yesterday I inquired with the State of Massachusetts to find out about a few recent amendments and changes.
Question: Can you tell me if MA allows the lead safe renovation supervisor to take paint chip samples same as EPA does?
Question: Also, does MA now recognize LeadCheck for Drywall and Plaster?
In reality what they have done has not been effective. Either the message is not effective, the placement is not effective or both. According to a 

So far EPA has only published one violation since the rule came into effect in April of 2010. On the other hand the state of Massachusetts took over the rule in July of 2012 and has
It is a fact that lead is poisonous and RRP activities can cause poisoning. However, EPA does not know how many children were actually poisoned by RRP activities before the rule came into effect. If you check any of the data it refers to RRP activities as the “likely source” of lead poisoning, not “the cause”. That being the case, EPA has no way to know if the RRP rule is making a difference or not. It is ‘likely” that it is helping. But, without knowing where EPA started and where we are now that the rule has been in place for almost a year, EPA has no idea if what they have been doing is effective enough and or if or where it can improve effectiveness within the rule.
A recent survey by the National Association of the Remodeling Industry shows that a full majority of members responding to the survey agreed with the
The NARI press release also clarified that NARI continues to work actively with the EPA on ways the agency can educate the public on the importance of hiring EPA-certified remodelers to do work on homes built before 1978. NARI has been and continues to push the agency for tougher enforcement of the rules to crack down on firms lacking the required EPA certification that are violating the rule and failing to protect homeowners.
A recent example of this related to lead in construction is discussed in an
At the San Juan National Historic Site project eight alleged serious violations resulted from a lack of medical evaluations and fit-testing for employees using respirators, improper storage of compressed gas cylinders, no eye-wash stations where employees worked with corrosive products, an uncovered electrical receptacle, a lack of hazard communication training and material data sheets of the products used, and not implementing hazard communication and written respiratory protection programs.
“There is a new sheriff in town. Make no mistake about it; the Department of Labor is back in the enforcement business… Under my watch, enforcement of labor laws will be intensified to provide an effective deterrent to employers who put their workers’ lives at risk.”
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With spring only a short time away, contractors will soon be working outdoors again in the northeast. This will make the work they do and the work practices they use much more visible to OSHA and EPA. Consider yourself warned and get ready. In additional to the work practices required under RRP rules, there are plenty of OSHA regulations and requirements as well. If you don’t have written safety plans for the work your business performs, or if you have not provided the required safety training and equipment for your workers, you might become an easy target.
Anne points out that EPA Administrator Lisa was quoted to say “EPA is back on the job" and that EPA has received the largest enforcement budget in its history, making it more likely that your business will be subject to some type of investigation.
Although a written request for information should specify the statutory authority for the request, don't assume that the agency actually has the cited authority. Knowing the source of the government's authority for the request, as well as determining the applicability of the request to your business, is imperative in both limiting the scope of your response and protecting your business interests with customers and other parties that may be affected by the request.


