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Banks And Lenders Are Starting to Find Out About the EPA RRP Rule Too

  
  
  
  

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Banks And Other Lenders Are Starting to Find Out About the EPA RRP Rule Too.

Foreclosure signBanks have started to figure out that the costs and liabilities related to the EPA RRP rule can dramatically increase their costs and risks.  Banks that own foreclosed properties have quickly discovered the additional costs they will incur when repairing and or renovating these properties just so they can sell them.  Under the RRP rule, landlords need to become certified firms and use certified renovators when working on their properties.  Banks who take possession of pre-1978 properties need to do the same and or only hire certified firms to perform the work for them.  As a result of the RRP rule, many pre-1978 foreclosed homes are now worth less than they were valued prior to the April 22, 2010 date the new EPA RRP rule took effect. 

Upside down mortgageBanks are also more likely to end up with additional foreclosed properties due to the RRP rule.  For struggling pre-1978 homeowners and investors, perhaps already upside-down on their mortgages, the additional repair and maintenance costs related to the EPA RRP rule may be just one more reason to justify letting their properties go to foreclosure.  Finding out about the potential additional drop in equity value in the property due to the EPA RRP rule may become a second reason to let upside down properties go to foreclosure.

Approved or RejectedAs mentioned above, banks have already started to become aware of the EPA RRP rule due to foreclosures.  They are also using this knowledge when considering loans.  If loaning money to home buyers for purchases and or to property owners for renovations, banks will likely want to know if a pre-1978 property contains lead and if it does how it might affect the value of the home.  A home needing significant repairs or maintenance after purchase will likely have a much lower value if the work will fall under the EPA RRP rule.  Such scenarios might have a few different effects ranging from requiring more money down, higher interest rates, lower appraised value of the property as compared to the selling price and or ultimately denying to loan money on the property. 

Comments

Well Dude, I told you this would happen. While we were all feeling good about protecting occupants some of us thought this rule would have adverse effects on property values and complicate a struggling economy. The cost for compliance will end up in hundreds of billions of dollars in lost equity. We need a real lead rule that protects people and property values.
Posted @ Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:20 AM by Paul Lesieur
Shawn, My company is looking for ways to reduce the cost of lead work by using XRF testing and developing cleaver ways to do LSWP for less. Once you know what the right thing is to do for health and safety "we" need to suck it up and work together to fix the problem. It is a bummer that some property values have to drop because of errors committed in the past. like asbestos, 10 years from now lead will be a passe topic. we have to start somewhere.
Posted @ Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:05 AM by joe Levitch
Shawn, do you have a definitive answer to the following question: An RRP certified renovator performs lead testing on all the various componants of work being renovated, using the EPA approved test (LeadCheck by Hybrivet) with all negative results, which are then documented as required. Can the work now proceed as a non RRP project? You have mentioned in a previous post (which I cannot locate the quote at the moment) that the testing actually needs to be done by a licensed lead inspector. I thought the RRP rule states that it can be done by a RRP certified renovator.
Posted @ Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:03 AM by Michael Gelb
i love going to work every day thinking i am going to get suid thank you obama
Posted @ Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:12 AM by paul
You can blame Obama but what happened was the industry groups we have took the low road and although they put up a fight it wasn't a good fight. I'm not going to pretend I will comply just to tell myself I'm a good guy. Screw that! I'm a thinking guy and I think this will only become more involved and confusing and most of the market will find a way around this rule. Like it or not the RRP rule is not going to make you a "good guy" just because you support it. The supporters remind me of being in the 7th grade when the teachers pets would agree to extra homework just so they could get a little warm fuzzy from the maniacal nuns who taught in my school.
Posted @ Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:56 PM by Paul Lesieur
The basis of the EPA RRP rule stated well before Obama was elected to office. When enacted the market was near a top and many felt that this rule would have little monetary effect on the housing market.
Posted @ Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:34 PM by Tettering On The Edge
A little history lesson is in order. 
 
 
 
The RRP rule is only hte latest in the lead rules. Lead safe Work practices go back to the Residential Lead-Based Paint Hazard Reduction Act of 1992--Title X 
 
http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/titleten.html 
 
 
 
Property disclosure is covered under . . . 
 
 
 
24 CFR Part 35 
 
Subpart A—Disclosure of Known Lead-Based Paint and/or Lead-Based Paint Hazards Upon Sale or Lease of Residential Property 
 
http://www.hud.gov/offices/lead/library/enforcement/24CFR35_SubpartA.pdf 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted @ Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:44 PM by Gene
Good history lesson. 
I started lead paint awareness in 1994, it was a total accident and the reason was that my wife was pregnant, our doctor was into warning us about the dangers of lead. I continued to be careful and tell people with children on the need to keep them away from the dust, we also did good cleanup. Then in 2008 I got involved in discussions again on lead and support safe site practices, but I don't support the lead rule as written for both safety and economic reasons, also I believe our containment and disposal practices are lame, I saw a window job yesterday and plastic was blowing all over the lawn, if anything the lead was now evenly spread around the neighborhood.
Posted @ Friday, October 01, 2010 6:00 AM by Paul Lesieur
Part of the problem is there a too many exceptions to the rules plus you have different rule to follow for EPA, HUD, OSHA and DEC. 
 
 
 
None of them talk to each other. You can follow the RRP rule and be in compliance but OSHA can then come on the job and cite you slipping hazzards. 
 
 
 
Plus . . . you are not allowed to teach OSHA at the same time you teach Lead. 
 
 
 
All the government agencies need to get together in the same rooma and come to some concensus.
Posted @ Friday, October 01, 2010 6:12 AM by Gene
you caught me in the middle of a risk assessor course. Learning about the health hazards of lead and mitigation strategies is incredibly interesting to me. Teaching others and working through the confusion is a challenge, I encourage you to use your rage to help me untangle the mess. I have energy to make things better for the industry.
Posted @ Friday, October 01, 2010 7:52 AM by Joe Levitch
Michael, a certified renovator can test for lead as you have described. I think you may be referring to a blog I wrote where I clarify the legal definition of lead. The EPA approved test kits can tell you if there is lead present or not, but cannot measure lead based on the legal definition. The legal definition is based on an amount of lead. Check this out for more and some clarity: http://www.shawnmccadden.com/rrpedia/bid/45007/NAHB-Article-Regarding-EPA-Lead-Test-Kits-Could-Be-Misleading-To-Some
Posted @ Monday, October 04, 2010 6:43 AM by Shawn McCadden
Gene, can you clarify what you meant when you wrote the following?  
"Plus . . . you are not allowed to teach OSHA at the same time you teach Lead."
Posted @ Monday, October 04, 2010 6:49 AM by Shawn McCadden
The company I work with teaches lead, mold, aspestoes, hanmat and OSHA. 
 
 
 
My boss was in class with me recently and mentioned that in the Reagan era it was set up that there could be no duplication of services beteeen departments. 
 
 
 
This sounds great on papaer. In real life it meant that you can teah lead or you can teach OSHA the two courses cannot be combined. 
 
 
 
If you look at the RRP course it makes mention of OSHA in a couple of cases but no details. 
 
 
 
I am not an OSHA instructor. I have enough knowledge to briefly touch on where the rule overlap but cannot go into detail. This often becomes a tille frustrating for those in the class. 
 
 
 
Pretty much what has happened is EPA does not "require" certain practices such as PPE but states that OSHA may. 
 
 
 
If you look at some of the pictures EPA uses in the course there are about a dozen OSHA violattions. 
 
 
 
This is what happens with no duplication between departments. 
 
 
 
One hand does not know what the other is doing.
Posted @ Monday, October 04, 2010 8:00 AM by Gene
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