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Costs Of RRP Compliance Challenging Many Businesses and Likely To Go Higher!

Renovators have justified their concerns about the additional costs of complying with the EPA RRP Rule based on two different but interdependent reasons.  First is the cost to the business.  Businesses that do comply have to pay to become a certified firm, pay training fees for the required certified renovator training, pay the wages of the certified renovator while he/she trains non-certified workers, pay the wages of employees while they attend training, and must purchase all of the tools, related equipment and personal protection equipment needed by workers to do the work.   Second, they cite the additional labor and material costs to perform the work.  

RRP Challenges and RRP Problems

 

These additional costs might not be all that burdensome if all contractors doing RRP work shared the same burdens and where able to recover these costs through the selling prices of their jobs.  But, the additional costs become an extreme burden for many businesses if and when they are in competition with illegally operating businesses that avoid the additional costs and therefore are offering lower prices to consumers.  Many contractors are reporting that the additional costs are putting them out of business.

 

Ready for some more bad news?   The costs of compliance are likely to go up even higher, for complying businesses as well as for consumers. 

  • First, the proposed dust wipe amendment, if approved, will definitely increase projects costs and will result in delaying when the consumer can get back into the renovated space. 
  • Second, in addition to the costs related to the dust wipe testing, because contained areas cannot be re-inhabited until the tests show no lead dust, consumers may need to seek alternate living arrangements while waiting for test results to come back from laboratories. 
  • Third, because of the lack of a cost effective lead test kit that will recognize lead based on the legal definition of lead equal to or in excess of 1.0 mg/cm\2\ or 0.5% by weight, many projects that would not require lead safe practices must still be performed using lead-safe practices. 

Here is excerpt from the final rule preamble:

RRP Costs“Number of events and individuals affected: In the first year that all of the rule requirements will be in effect, there will be an estimated 8.4 million renovation, repair, and painting events where lead-safe work practices will be used due to the rule. As a result, there will be approximately 1.4 million children under the age of 6 who will be affected by having their exposure to lead dust minimized due to the rule. There will also be about 5.4 million adults who will be affected. After improved test kits for determining whether a painted surface contains lead-based paint become available (which is assumed in the analysis to occur by the second year of the rule), the number of renovation, repair, and painting events using lead-safe work practices is expected to drop to 4.4 million events per year. No change in the number of exposures avoided due to the rule is expected because the improved test kit will more accurately identify paint without lead, thus reducing the number of events unnecessarily using the required work practices.”

So, because the EPA falsely assumed that the improved test kits would be available by September 2010, 4.4 million RRP projects will bear the additional cost of lead-safe practices that would not be required if the improved test kits were available.  That one bad assumption by EPA, based on the bogus and underestimated average additional cost of $35 per project, will result in $140 million in additional costs for projects “unnecessarily using the required work practices”.   What do you think about that?   What would consumers think about that?

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Add to the costs mentioned above the following; 
 
1. Contract revisions by a lawyer for the contract, subcontract agreement, and the employee pre-screening process. 
 
2. Increased insurance coverage  
 
3. Setting up a dedicated documentation procedure 
 
4. Hepa vacuums with shroud attachments. Every crew should have one back up as well. 
 
5. Replacement filters for hepa vacuums which are not cheap. 
 
6. Personal Protective Equipment 
 
7. Plastic, signs tape, temporary barriers. 
 
8. OSHA training for the OSHA Lead in Construction Standard to fill in the gaps missing in the RRP training course. 
 
 
 
Priceless 
 
 
 
mark the coach
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:47 AM by mark paskell
A new found chain of hotels-motels-motor homes, called a Stay here lead free suites, after all .homeowners willhave to get special deals per night while tests are being done , might be a better business to be in,
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:07 AM by Jim Raymond
Good one Jim. Maybe giving a coupon for a free hotel stay with every RRP job will become a new marketing strategy for renovators!
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:19 AM by Shawn McCadden
The cost for government intervention in our lives is staggering. Lets do away with building permits and the code book while you're at it, think of the money we could save, after all who knows remodeling better than...most guys have been remodeling longer than me. Lets exercise our God given rights to do what ever the hell we want to. On a serious note, lead is an extremely dangerous toxin even in minute amounts. Just because the symptoms are more subtle than say a stroke or heart attack doesn't mean they aren't serious, You want your clients kids to have a decreased potential IQ for life? Shawn, you have said it yourself all over your blog, lead is hazardous to health. Why not find a company to pre-screen with XRF? They will immediately and accurately identify the location of the lead so those parts can be handled properly. Odds are there are fewer leaded components of a home than you think. Dust wipe testing results can be available in 6 hours or less from arrival at the lab I use. I'm having trouble understanding why there are so many afraid of learning a new way to work safely around such a dangerous substance to humans and animals. Is there any remodeler that has a success story to share that has come to terms with the RRP rule or am I the only one?
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:51 AM by Joe Levitch
Joe, thanks for your comment. I think perhaps you are misreading my stance. Sure the rule could have been written better, but I agree something needs to be done to protect children, homeowners and workers from the danger of lead. I think you and I are on the same page there. 
 
My message is that without adequate enforcement, this rule is unfair and gives homeowners and the public a false sense of security. If you look at the evidence, lead poisoning has dropped to less than 1% or by over 90% in the 10 years they argued about the need for the rule. What caused the drop? Shouldn't the EPA find out and make sure more of the same keeps happening? Does the government even know the true number of kids poisoned specifically by RRP activities and do they have a way to measure the actual results of the RRP rule over time?  
 
Joe, numbers show that less than 10% of the regulated community is certified to do this work and even fewer firms are certified as required just to offer services on pre 1978 homes. It is unfair for those like you who are doing the right thing to be in competition with those who are poisoning the children. It is unfair that the violations by these businesses are being ignored by our government when the numbers prove the RRP is not serving the intended purpose. Justification for the rule included the number of children that would be protected if all businesses came into compliance. What is the sense of a law that is not enforced? Why are homeowners allowed to to do their own work without lead-safe practices, as a result poison their own children and can then get free health care for them paid for by hard working tax paying businesses and citizens? Joe, I ask you consider the hardworking mom and pop remodelers out there who are going out of business trying to comply while illegally operating renovators do the work with disregard for the RRP rule and get paid in cash, while you and I and the EPA know this is all happening... The legitimate businesses in the industry are asking for enforcement and a rethinking of how this rule is being administered, not that the rule go away all together.  
 
If you would like to do a guest blog to share your take and or message to remodelers, I would be happy to offer you that opportunity. 
 
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:24 AM by Shawn McCadden
thank you darthbama fight back vote republican
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:12 AM by paul k
"You want your clients kids to have a decreased potential IQ for life?"  
 
 
 
If thats the case how do we know there wasn't decreased potential IQs at work writing this epa rule?? Should we test every citizen to see if they have or had lead poisioning--thus a lower IQ? Should those with lower IQ from lead poisioning be deemed disabled and qualify for SS Disability?? There are dangers to everything in life--we all take a risk driving to work. Should we abolish work so we can eliminate that risk? I will go out on a limb and say that contractors are more likely to suffer injuries from ladder accidents--more likely than someone that has a job sitting behind a desk. Should we eliminate all contracting jobs that require ladder use?? Should we require the parents and all children to travel in only cars that have the highest safety standard?? With the safety standards of cars there has been a decrease in traffic fatalities but they arent eliminated---should we decrease the speed limit to 35 mph on all roads to further decrease or eliminate traffic fatalities?? The cases of ebll's has dropped for years. In Wisconsin they are hoping to license 20,000 contractors for this rrp. Wisconsin in 1997, 68,464 children six years and younger were tested and 7010 (10.24%) had elevated blood lead levels? In 2007, 91701 were tested and 1575 (1.72%) had elevated blood lead levels? So the facts (from the Center for Disease Control) are that since 1997 to 2007 the number of children tested has risen from 68,464 to 91,701 and the number of children with elevated blood levels has decreased from 7010 in 1997 to 1575 in 2007. The facts say there has been a steady decrease in children with elevated blood lead levels since 1997, all done without this new law. I recently read an article that said 83% of the citizens feel congress isnt doing a good job---this rule is perfect example of why so many feel that way.
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:34 PM by Ray
Got a notice from my insurance carrier that anything having to do with lead is now excluded from my coverage. Then got off the phone with my agent because he is leaving and going idependent and the lead issue is part of the reason for doing so. Now contemplating whter or not it is worthwhile to stay in this business as the costs and regulations keep rising but what you can get for your professional services is rapidly declining. At some point one has to ask whether or not it is worth the effort to be an independent business.  
 
Posted @ Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:02 PM by teetering on the edge
My insurance drooped lead coverage too. A rider will double my insurance cost for liability. After 40 years in the business, I'm closing the doors. This was the last staw.
Posted @ Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:30 AM by EJ
time to do an Egypt thing, time to have a tea party, time for revolution,, no work, no business, no company , NO TAXES, crooked govt,maybe they should re-consider what they are doing to us, this country has gone down the tubes, here is another business gone, " the united states govt. has no shame, we will all be out rustling cattle,raiding chicken coops, we,Contractors should all pick a day and march on the white house,, my insurance went up to , so much i gave up, the same money will buy a new Buick $22,000.00, Mr. Govt Kiss my taxes good buy, I have none to give, and i am sure this other contractor thinks the same, we will no longer fly with the eagles, we will fly with the sparrows,,no more contractors ,no more home improvement stores,no hardware stores, no property up keep, we are going into an age of property disgrace in USA, OH! Mr. President ,See what is happening, I bet the white house has lead,another contractor out of business, IN USA, What a terrible embarrassment for USA,
Posted @ Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:16 AM by J R
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